Filed by Peoples United Financial, Inc.
Pursuant to Rule 425
under the Securities Act of 1933 and
deemed filed pursuant to Rule 14a-12 under
the Securities Exchange Act of 1934
Subject Company: Suffolk Bancorp
(Commission File No. 001-37658)
Explanatory Note: The following is a transcript of an investor call that took place on June 27, 2016, which was posted to the website of Peoples United Financial, Inc. This transcript was prepared by a third party, has not been independently verified by Peoples United Financial, Inc. and may contain errors.
IMPORTANT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND WHERE TO FIND IT
This communication is being made in respect of the proposed merger transaction involving Peoples United Financial, Inc. (Peoples United) and Suffolk Bancorp (Suffolk). Peoples United intends to file a registration statement on Form S-4 with the Securities and Exchange Commission (the SEC), which will include a proxy statement of Suffolk and a prospectus of Peoples United, and each party will file other documents regarding the proposed transaction with the SEC. A definitive proxy statement/prospectus will also be sent to the Suffolk shareholders seeking any required shareholder approval. This communication does not constitute an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any securities or a solicitation of any vote or approval. Before making any voting or investment decision, investors and security holders of Suffolk are urged to carefully read the entire registration statement and proxy statement/prospectus, when they become available, and any other relevant documents filed with the SEC, as well as any amendments or supplements to these documents, because they will contain important information about the proposed transaction. The documents filed by Peoples United and Suffolk with the SEC may be obtained free of charge at the SECs website at www.sec.gov. In addition, the documents filed by Peoples United may be obtained free of charge from Peoples United at www.peoples.com under the tab Investor Relations and then under the heading Financial Information, and the documents filed by Suffolk may be obtained free of charge from Suffolk at www.scnb.com under the tab Investor Relations and then under the tab SEC Filings. Alternatively, these documents, when available, can be obtained free of charge from Peoples United upon written request to Peoples United Financial, Inc., 850 Main Street, Bridgeport, Connecticut 06604, Attn: Investor Relations, or by calling (203) 338-4581, or from Suffolk upon written request to Suffolk Bancorp, 4 West Second Street, Riverhead, New York 11901, Attn: Investor Relations, or by calling (631) 208-2400.
Peoples United and Suffolk and certain of their respective directors and executive officers may be deemed to be participants in the solicitation of proxies from the shareholders of Suffolk in favor of the approval of the merger. Information regarding Peoples Uniteds directors and executive officers is contained in Peoples Uniteds Annual Report on Form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2015 and its Proxy Statement on Schedule 14A, dated March 11, 2016, which are filed with the SEC. Information regarding Suffolks directors and executive officers is contained in Suffolks Annual Report on Form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2015 and its Proxy Statement on Schedule 14A, dated April 6, 2016, which are filed with the SEC. Additional information regarding the interests of those participants and other persons who may be deemed participants in the transaction may be obtained by reading the registration statement and the proxy statement/prospectus when they become available. Free copies of these documents may be obtained as described in the preceding paragraph.
FORWARD-LOOKING STATEMENTS
This communication contains forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 including, but not limited to, Peoples Uniteds and Suffolks expectations or predictions of future financial or business performance or conditions. Forward-looking statements are typically identified by words such as believe, expect, anticipate, intend, target, estimate, continue, positions,
plan, predict, project, forecast, guidance, goal, objective, prospects, possible or potential, by future conditional verbs such as assume, will, would, should, could or may, or by variations of such words or by similar expressions. These forward-looking statements are subject to numerous assumptions, risks and uncertainties, which change over time, are difficult to predict and are generally beyond the control of either company. Forward-looking statements speak only as of the date they are made and we assume no duty to update forward-looking statements. Actual results may differ materially from current projections.
In addition to factors previously disclosed in Peoples Uniteds and Suffolks reports filed with the SEC and those identified elsewhere in this communication, the following factors, among others, could cause actual results to differ materially from forward-looking statements or historical performance: ability to obtain regulatory approvals and meet other closing conditions to the merger, including approval by Suffolk shareholders on the expected terms and schedule, and including the risk that regulatory approvals required for the merger are not obtained or are obtained subject to conditions that are not anticipated; delay in closing the merger; difficulties and delays in integrating the Suffolk business or fully realizing cost savings and other benefits; business disruption following the merger; changes in asset quality and credit risk; the inability to sustain revenue and earnings growth; changes in interest rates and capital markets; inflation; customer acceptance of Peoples Uniteds products and services; customer borrowing, repayment, investment and deposit practices; customer disintermediation; the introduction, withdrawal, success and timing of business initiatives; competitive conditions; the inability to realize cost savings or revenues or to implement integration plans and other consequences associated with mergers, acquisitions and divestitures; economic conditions; the impact, extent and timing of technological changes; capital management activities; litigation; increased capital requirements, other regulatory requirements or enhanced regulatory supervision; and other actions of the Federal Reserve Board and legislative and regulatory actions and reforms.
Annualized, pro forma, projected and estimated numbers are used for illustrative purpose only, are not forecasts and may not reflect actual results.
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CORPORATE PARTICIPANTS
Andrew Hersom Peoples United Financial, Inc. - IR
Jack Barnes Peoples United Financial, Inc. - President and CEO
David Rosato Peoples United Financial, Inc. - CFO
CONFERENCE CALL PARTICIPANTS
Ken Zerbe Morgan Stanley - Analyst
David Rochester Deutsche Bank - Analyst
Bob Ramsey FBR & Company - Analyst
Nick Cucharale Sandler ONeill & Partners - Analyst
Casey Haire Jefferies LLC - Analyst
Collyn Gilbert Keefe, Bruyette & Woods, Inc. - Analyst
Matthew Breese Piper Jaffray - Analyst
PRESENTATION
Operator
Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to Peoples United financial acquisition of Suffolk Bancorp conference call.
(Operator Instructions)
As a reminder, todays conference may be recorded. Id like to introduce your host for todays conference, Mr. Andrew Hersom, Investor Relations. Sir, please go ahead.
Andrew Hersom - Peoples United Financial, Inc. - IR
Good morning, and thank you for joining us today. Here with me to discuss our acquisition of Summit Bancorp are Jack Barnes, President and Chief Executive Officer; David Rosato, Chief Financial Officer; Kirk Walters, Corporate Development and Strategic Planning; and Jeff Hoyt, Chief Accounting Officer.
Please remember to refer to our forward-looking statements on slide 1, and the important additional information and where to find it on slide 14 of this presentation, which is posted on our website, people.com under investor relations.
With that Ill turn the call over to Jack.
Jack Barnes - Peoples United Financial, Inc. - President and CEO
Thank you, Andrew, and good morning. Were very excited to announce the acquisition of Suffolk Bancorp by Peoples United today.
Before we get into the details I would like to welcome the Suffolk Bancorp employees to Peoples United. We look forward to working with you and building upon your achievements. We have great respect for your franchise and share a similar commitment to relationship-based banking and serving our customers and communities.
Turning to slide 2, this transaction is a logical and strategic fit for Peoples United as growth in the New York Metro area remains one of our highest strategic priorities. Since our acquisitions of the Bank of Smithtown in 2010, and 57 branches from RBS Citizens in 2012 we have been well received in this market.
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For example, we have grown deposits in the former Citizens branches by a compound annual growth rate of 41%. We have also successfully built out our commercial banking teams on Long Island to deliver our full product offering. This progress gives us confidence in our ability to execute as we expand our branch network throughout the New York Metro area.
The addition of the Suffolk franchise, with its impressive Long Island footprint and solid relationship banking approach, complements our previous acquisitions and the organic growth in the area. The transaction enables us to further bolster our presence in this attractive banking market by enhancing density and customer convenience across Long Island. It will also provide us greater access to customers on the eastern end of Long Island, an area where we currently do not have presence, and where Suffolk has operated for over 125 years.
On a pro forma basis, our Long Island market share will increase significantly from 18 to 12 with $3.6 billion in deposits. The transaction provides an outstanding source of low-cost deposits, as well as high concentration of non-interest-bearing deposits, which account for 42% of Suffolks total deposits. Furthermore, core deposits consisting of demand, NOW, savings and money market, funds represent 88% of total deposits.
As a result of this unique profile, the cost of deposits is very low, 19 basis points. There are very few banks within our footprint or even nationwide with such a desirable core deposit franchise. We are excited for the opportunity to market our more expansive menu of products and services to Suffolks customer base in areas such as home equity, treasury management, wealth management and insurance. And particularly we look forward to leveraging the size and strength of our balance sheet to provide more comprehensive solutions through larger relationships.
Additionally, the transaction provides a compelling cost savings opportunity. Weve identified achievable reductions from the elimination of redundant functions as we bring the two franchises together. We will consolidate branches as part of our overall cost savings initiatives, which will total 50% of Suffolks standalone expense base.
As I mentioned at the beginning of my comments we have great respect for Suffolks people and franchise. We have partnered with Suffolk in a number of ways over the past several years, including through loan participations and referrals.
As a result, I have known Howard Bluver, Suffolks President and CEO, for many years, and I am pleased that he will join Peoples United in the critical leadership role of New York Market President. Howards deep roots in the region, his understanding of the local economy, and his proven ability for growth will continue our momentum in this market. We look forward to leveraging his experience, as well as that of his team to build new customer relationships and deepen existing ones.
Throughout the due diligence process we have had the opportunity to spend meaningful time with members of the Suffolk senior team, and have further cemented our belief that both franchises complement each other very well. Combining our similar client-focused cultures will create significant value for both institutions customers and shareholders.
Moving to slide 3, we provide a snapshot of Suffolk. With assets of $2.3 billion, Suffolk is one of the largest banks headquartered on Long Island and has a significant presence in the large and attractive markets of Nassau and Suffolk Counties. The Bank offers a range of both commercial and retail banking services via 28 branches.
Through Howards leadership and the efforts of his team, Suffolk has been very successful at growing their loan portfolio while maintaining excellent credit quality metrics, as well as building an outstanding deposit franchise.
With that, Ill pass it to David to discuss the transaction in more detail.
David Rosato - Peoples United Financial, Inc. - CFO
Thank you, Jack. On slide 4 we provide a summary of the key transaction terms. We agreed to acquire Suffolk Bancorp, the holding Company of Suffolk County National Bank, in a 100% stock transaction with a fixed exchange ratio of 2.225 shares of Peoples United for each share of Suffolk.
The total deal value is $402 million based on the June 24 closing price, which equates to 18.5 times Suffolks estimated 2017 earnings per share and 196% of tangible book value. It is worth noting that this corresponds to 17.3 times per share estimates prior to their first-quarter earnings announcement.
Completion of the transaction is subject to customary closing conditions, including approval from our regulators, as well as Suffolk Bancorps shareholders. The transaction is expected to close late in the fourth quarter of 2016.
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As you can see, the deal produces attractive financial returns. We expect earnings per share accretion of approximately 1% with fully phased in expense synergies. Tangible book value dilution is minimal at approximately 1% with an earnback period under five years using the dynamic crossover approach. The deal is accretive to capital ratios by 10 basis points and is expected to reduce the dividend payout ratio by approximately 70 basis points.
Slide 5 displays the key transaction assumptions. Based on our due diligence we believe compelling cost synergies are achievable. We have identified annual pretax savings of $27 million or 50% of Suffolks expense base, which is expected to be fully phased in by 2018.
We conducted extensive credit due diligence, reviewing over 63% of Suffolks commercial loan portfolio, including 60% of the commercial real estate and 85% of their C&I portfolio. We also studies samples of the retail portfolio, as well as the overall underwriting and rating process. As such, we are very comfortable with our credit mark assumptions.
Revenue synergies are not included in our modeling assumptions. However, as Jack referenced earlier, we are excited by the opportunities to market our expanded menu of products and services to Suffolks existing customer base, as well as utilize the strength and size of our balance sheet to provide more comprehensive solutions to larger customers.
On slide 6, we illustrate the loan and deposit compositions of both franchises. On a pro forma basis, the loan portfolio remains highly diversified. We look forward to deploying our strong commercial and retail product set to an expanded Long Island customer base. And, as Jack mentioned earlier, Suffolks deposits are very attractive, with a cost of only 19 basis points.
Slides 7 and 8 illustrate on enhanced position in the large and attractive Long Island market. We have significant branch overlap between the two franchises, with 64% of Suffolks network within two miles of a Peoples United branch, which will meaningfully contribute to cost savings drawn from both franchises. The demographics of both Nassau and Suffolk Counties are appealing, as both median household income and unemployment are favorable to national levels.
On slide 9 we show our deepening presence in key counties outside of New York City. This transaction furthers our strategy of leveraging our presence in surrounding areas to better position ourselves for long-term success in and around New York City.
As Jack said, we are excited to offer Suffolks existing customer base our expanded menu of products and services, referenced on slides 10 and 11. Leveraging the size and strength of our balance sheet to increase commitment levels will allow us to better serve Suffolks larger customers and broaden the base of prospects. Furthermore, our home equity and retail checking account production per branch is fixed time and 1.25 times that of Suffolk.
We are confident that our sales-driven culture will enable us to bring Suffolks production in line with our branch franchises. We view these potential revenue synergies as significant opportunities that are not included in our projections.
Turning to the estimated financial impact on slide 12, the transaction is capital accretive, with return on average tangible common equity improvement of approximately 30 basis points. In addition, both our dividend payout and efficiency ratios improve on a pro forma basis by 70 basis points and 200 basis points, respectively.
Now let me turn it back over to Jack to wrap up.
Jack Barnes - Peoples United Financial, Inc. - President and CEO
Thank you, David. As we discussed, this transaction generates attractive financial returns and presents low integration risk given our demonstrated track record of successful conversions. Suffolk presents a compelling strategic fit with Peoples United, given our complementary business models, commitment to relationship-based banking, and conservative risk management philosophies.
This transaction enhances our presence in the New York Metro market area which is consistent with our long-term strategy. Further, there is a significant opportunity to deploy a broad product set and larger credit appetite to drive additional revenue growth. For those reasons we believe the transaction creates significant value to both customers and shareholders.
This concludes our presentation. Now I would be happy to answer questions you may have. Operator, we are ready for questions.
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QUESTION AND ANSWER
Operator
(Operator Instructions)
Ken Zerbe, Morgan Stanley.
Ken Zerbe - Morgan Stanley - Analyst
Good morning. I dont know Suffolk too much, but obviously I have heard about the problems they had on the CRE side. Could you just outline what those problems are, why the OCC stepped in? And then, also, how was Peoples able to compensate or handle those problems? Thanks
Jack Barnes - Peoples United Financial, Inc. - President and CEO
I think youre talking and referencing a first-quarter release that Suffolk put out where they identified that they had a considerable CRE concentration, commercial real estate concentration. The regulators typically approach that with a measure of CRE outstanding as a percent of capital. And they have had a very high percentage for a long time. But as the regulators have increased focus on that issue, what Suffolk announced was that they had reached an agreement with the regulators to maintain certain capital levels in response to that.
From our perspective, we have a much lower CRE concentration number, below a target level, if you will, or concern level with the regulators. And given our relative size, as we bring Suffolks CRE portfolio into ours, we go from about 276% of capital to 283%. So, very marginal impact.
Ken Zerbe - Morgan Stanley - Analyst
Okay, understood. And then just in terms of the price paid a two-part question, actually in the press release, page 4 you referred to pre first-quarter earnings estimates. So, just didnt know why youre looking at that aspect versus current estimates. And then just the other broader question is, how did you guys arrive at the price paid? It just seems a certainly healthy multiple, both on earnings and book, and just wondering what the process was of how you got there. Thanks
David Rosato - Peoples United Financial, Inc. - CFO
Sure. Ken, its David. Good morning. The reason, on page 4, we called out the pricing multiples per earnings release is because subsequent to Suffolks first-quarter earnings call and announcement that Jack just referenced, the [IBIS] estimate for the balance of the year went down $0.13 or almost 7%. And that was because of reduced commercial real estate volumes going forward, which wont be an issue when theyre combined with us.
Ken Zerbe - Morgan Stanley - Analyst
Understood. And the multiple in terms and how you guys arrived at the right price to pay for Suffolk? Because 43% premium is probably at the higher end of what weve seen recently.
Jack Barnes - Peoples United Financial, Inc. - President and CEO
Basically youve got a very attractive franchise in a very strong market that has a considerable amount of overlap with us. And we see the opportunity to get together with Suffolk as a very positive go-forward model for us on the Island.
When we look at the contribution of the company and the earnings flow and the savings that well get out of it, we arrived at a price that we felt was appropriate and competitive, that produced the proper return metrics for us. I would just add that an incredibly clean company from a credit perspective and s really nice funding base with 19 basis points cost of funds and a very strong customer base with a high level of DDAs.
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Ken Zerbe - Morgan Stanley - Analyst
Thank you very much.
Operator
David Rochester, Deutsche Bank.
David Rochester - Deutsche Bank - Analyst
Good morning, guys You mentioned the potential for revenue synergies that you arent modeling into your accretion analysis. Can you just give us a sense for your base case on that and what could be the annualized benefit from those synergies by the time you get out to 2018?
David Rosato - Peoples United Financial, Inc. - CFO
David, what we pointed out that we have not modeled in the numbers presented there are no revenue synergies. As we begin to work with Howard to put the two franchises together, we expect significant revenue synergies, as we mentioned. We have a sense of what that will be. Thats one of the reasons we called out the production of home equities, for example, in the deck, but at this point were not ready to put out revenue forecast specific to this transaction.
David Rochester - Deutsche Bank - Analyst
Okay. Thats fine. And then as we look through the end of this year when you close this deal, it looks like you could possibly be over $42 billion in assets, if you factor in some growth. Are you thinking at that point youll have to speed up your preparations for the supervisor stress test in CCAR? And could you give us just a sense for what that GAAP analysis number is that you think youll have to spend to get ready for that?
Jack Barnes - Peoples United Financial, Inc. - President and CEO
Basically our preparation, as weve been letting everybody know, has been ongoing and continues to progress nicely. I dont see this transaction as I think you said, would we have to accelerate the process I dont think thats the case at all. We continue to move through the process effectively. So, naturally, as we look out, the size of Suffolk is roughly equivalent to one years organic growth. So, if you want to put it in terms of what we think it might do to the time line, I would think about it on that basis.
David Rochester - Deutsche Bank - Analyst
Can you just give us a sense of how much you think youre going to have to spend to get ready for that to complete those preparations?
Jack Barnes - Peoples United Financial, Inc. - President and CEO
Our intent has been and continues to be to work through the process internally and to get the work done over time so that were ready when we do cross $50 billion. So, we are trying in that process to avoid unusual one-time costs. And thats why were going through the project and the preparation that we are doing.
David Rochester - Deutsche Bank - Analyst
When you say avoid one-time costs, are you referring to consultants? Are you guys using consultants?
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Jack Barnes - Peoples United Financial, Inc. - President and CEO
Were definitely referring to consultants or just unusual costs that would come from ramping up capabilities in a very quick sudden way. We are building strength in modeling and building the staff and proving DFAS filings, and then learning about what the CCAR filing looks like and getting prepared to deliver it when we need to.
David Rosato - Peoples United Financial, Inc. - CFO
I would just add to that that weve been preparing for almost a year now the project and activities that Jacks talking about. And that preparation to date and going forward is in the guidance that we gave at the beginning of the year.
David Rochester - Deutsche Bank - Analyst
Can you just talk about as part of that guidance how much you guys are spending this year, or maybe how much youve spent over the last year, specifically related to that, just so we have some idea? Because other banks in the market have gone through the pain of going through this already and we have some quantitative measure for what theyve had to spend, and Im just trying to assess how far along you guys are, thats all.
Jack Barnes - Peoples United Financial, Inc. - President and CEO
We have these costs under control, and as part of our entirety of regulatory expenses. So, wed rather not break out specific line items relative to this.
David Rochester - Deutsche Bank - Analyst
Okay. And just one last one, if I could you mentioned that with the cost saves fully phased-in you get about 1% earnings accretion. But thats fully phased-in for 2018 so I was just trying to figure out, as you guys ramp up those cost saves, are you thinking that this could be possibly neutral to 2017 earnings or maybe a little bit dilutive? I guess splitting hairs here, but Im just trying to figure out what your thoughts are.
David Rosato - Peoples United Financial, Inc. - CFO
I would call it just slightly dilutive.
David Rochester - Deutsche Bank - Analyst
Okay, great. Thanks, guys.
David Rosato - Peoples United Financial, Inc. - CFO
Sure, youre welcome. Just final thought there, Dave, this transaction, as strategic as it is, is 5% of our total assets. So thats why you see the modest accretion and modest dilution.
David Rochester - Deutsche Bank - Analyst
All right, thanks again
Operator
Bob Ramsey, FBR.
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Bob Ramsey - FBR & Company - Analyst
Good morning, guys. Just real quick, I think I got it but I want to be sure I do on the Suffolk commercial real estate issues. Your expectation is that none of their elevated capital requirements will transfer to you, and the expectation is to resume their multi-family and commercial real estate growth when the deal closes. Thats fair?
Jack Barnes - Peoples United Financial, Inc. - President and CEO
The first part is fair, the second part is not. Again, careful to use the right terms but certainly are not expecting, as David just pointed out, Suffolk is roughly 5% of our total asset numbers. The CRE numbers that I referenced earlier will be the view of Peoples United, and we wont be talking to the regulators about those types of specific capital requirements. The resumption of the multi-family lending that Suffolk had been involved in, theyve pulled back from that for the time being and dont expect that that will resume right away here.
Bob Ramsey - FBR & Company - Analyst
Okay. And by right away you mean after youve closed the acquisition?
Jack Barnes - Peoples United Financial, Inc. - President and CEO
We are involved in multi-family lending across our footprint including New York, but the very small broker-driven multi-family lending that Suffolk had been involved in is something that we are far less active in our sales than we used to be. So, the two institutions have backed away from that market given market conditions.
Bob Ramsey - FBR & Company - Analyst
Okay. Maybe then thats the better question. Could you just help me understand a little better what is it that theyve exited, and it sounds like you guys dont like. contrast that with the business you all will continue to do.
Jack Barnes - Peoples United Financial, Inc. - President and CEO
Just to correct you, its not that we dont like, or Suffolk didnt like what they have on their books in multi-family in the market, but the market, the spreads have gotten much thinner and the terms have gotten much tougher. So, we have opportunities to lend in other areas that are more attractive to us and thats what were doing, and thats what Suffolk has been doing, as well.
Bob Ramsey - FBR & Company - Analyst
Okay, fair enough. Shifting gears slightly, what can you tell us about the background of this transaction? I think one of Suffolks biggest owners is [at times activists]. Were they a catalyst in the decision to sell? Was it a competitive process? What can you tell me?
Jack Barnes - Peoples United Financial, Inc. - President and CEO
Im not privy to any of that but I believe the answer is no, they were not a catalyst. Howard and I have built a relationship over many years. I think as we referenced in our material, weve done business together, loan participations, bought pools of loans. I have for a long time felt like Howard was the kind of leader, and his knowledge of New York would be a great addition to Peoples United. And Im very much looking forward to Howard bringing that leadership into our Company and helping us move our New York franchise forward. I think thats going to be one of the nicer stories about this transaction and the two companies getting together.
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Bob Ramsey - FBR & Company - Analyst
And was it a competitive process, an auction?
Jack Barnes - Peoples United Financial, Inc. - President and CEO
It was a competitive process as far as we know. And certainly that was the communication in and around the deal.
Bob Ramsey - FBR & Company - Analyst
Great. Last question have you all determined how many of the branches youre looking to consolidate to drive that cost save number?
Jack Barnes - Peoples United Financial, Inc. - President and CEO
We have modeled 15. As we shared, 18 of the branches are within two miles of each other. We will engage with Howard and the Suffolk folks, with our retail execs, and work through the process to finalize it. But we are very confident we may get more than that 15.
Bob Ramsey - FBR & Company - Analyst
Great. Thank you for taking the questions.
Operator
Mark Fitzgibbon, Sandler ONeill.
Nick Cucharale - Sandler ONeill & Partners - Analyst
Good morning, guys, this is Nick Cucharale filling in for Mark I know you had been vocal about a preferred deal in the back half of the year. Does the Suffolk deal change your thinking with respect to capital or appetite for a preferred deal?
David Rosato - Peoples United Financial, Inc. - CFO
It is David. I would say not. That deal we have talked about it in the back half of 2016. This transaction at about 5% of total assets of us isnt enough to change the timing or our thought process around it. This transaction is capital accretive, as we mentioned, but its only 10 basis points, and that would be upon closing.
The only other thought I can give you is a reminder that weve always conditioned that timing of that base on loan growth in 2016, as well as expectations going forward. But today I would say you should still think about it back half of this year issuance.
Nick Cucharale - Sandler ONeill & Partners - Analyst
Okay, great. And then with this deal do you feel like you have Long Island covered or are you looking to do further deals down there?
Jack Barnes - Peoples United Financial, Inc. - President and CEO
I think we have very nice coverage right now but I certainly wouldnt preclude further consolidation. There is opportunity for further consolidation on the Island.
Nick Cucharale - Sandler ONeill & Partners - Analyst
Thank you
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Operator
Casey Haire, Jefferies.
Casey Haire - Jefferies LLC - Analyst
Thanks, good morning, guys. I wanted to dig in on the earnback math. If I take 1% of tangible book, which is around $9, and then 1% EPS accretion, thats about $0.09 of book value dilution and $0.01 of earnings accretion, so roughly nine years earnback. So, how are you guys triangulating that with a five-year earnback? Can you just walk us through the dynamic crossover method?
David Rosato - Peoples United Financial, Inc. - CFO
Sure. Remember, were dealing with fairly small numbers here. The earnback, the earnings accretion grows over the time period and thats really the driver here. So our earnback number is 4.5 years, Casey.
Casey Haire - Jefferies LLC - Analyst
Okay. Theres a couple footnotes about the fair value marks. I noticed the adjusted book value multiple is 1.7. So, is this a fair value markup?
David Rosato - Peoples United Financial, Inc. - CFO
Yes it is, both on the loan portfolio of about $20 million, the securities portfolio of about $8 million, plus they had a fair amount of commercial real estate building on their books at a very low or zero basis. So, theres $20 million associated with real estate.
Casey Haire - Jefferies LLC - Analyst
Okay, got you. And just touching on the efficiency ratio, you guys are pointing to a 200 basis point improvement. By my math, that would give you guys, that would add about $0.06 of EPS, a lot stronger than the $0.01 of EPS accretion. Is that a longer-term aspirational goal or is that something that we can also expect in 2018?
David Rosato - Peoples United Financial, Inc. - CFO
Thats a fully phased in number, so that is 2018. Their efficiency ratio was roughly 1% below us, but thats really being driven by the value of all the cost saves.
Casey Haire - Jefferies LLC - Analyst
Okay. But you see my point? Like, if I take your efficiency ratio and I pulled 200 basis points out, Im getting EPS accretion a lot stronger than $0.01. It looks like $0.06.
David Rosato - Peoples United Financial, Inc. - CFO
That number is a little larger than we have.
Jack Barnes - Peoples United Financial, Inc. - President and CEO
Wed have to see what youre doing, Casey.
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Casey Haire - Jefferies LLC - Analyst
The efficiency ratio, thats Peoples. Youre not talking about Suffolks efficiency ratio, youre talking about Peoples.
David Rosato - Peoples United Financial, Inc. - CFO
Thats our pro forma efficiency ratio, fully phased in, inclusive of all the cost saves.
Casey Haire - Jefferies LLC - Analyst
Okay. That looks to me like a lot stronger than $0.01 but we can circle back. Last question, can you guys just talk about your long-term view on the dividend, because weve basically, with this deal, we are 20% closer to the CCAR level without a commensurate improvement in the payout ratio. Youre that much closer without a lot of help on the dividend front. So, what is the longer-term view on the dividend policy?
David Rosato - Peoples United Financial, Inc. - CFO
The longer-term view continues to be that we will continue to drive down the dividend payout ratio as we improve profitability of the Company. And we believe that in between theres a couple of things. One, if you assume that $50 million level requires well, it used to be a lower payout ratio from the regulatory standpoint. The environments changing. People are filing CCAR requests for increased dividend and theyre getting them. So the dividend payout ratios are starting to go up.
There is an expectation in the market that others will be approved at higher levels. And theres proposed legislation to change the $50 billion market. So, I expect that all those things will develop and evolve over the next three or four years.
Our intent is to pay the dividend at the existing levels and continue with our historic increase of $0.01 per year, and work through whatever discussion we would need to with our regulators, just as we have historically. Weve been moving along a plan of improving profitability, bring the payout ratio down gradually, and have had support to do that.
Casey Haire - Jefferies LLC - Analyst
Okay, understood. Okay, thanks. Fair enough.
Operator
Collyn Gilbert with KBW.
Collyn Gilbert - Keefe, Bruyette & Woods, Inc. - Analyst
Thanks, good morning, guys. Just a few housekeeping things. I just want to make sure I understand. You guys talk, in the slide deck you mentioned that $25 million pre-tax credit mark. But then theres a footnote on slide 4 that references a $2 million net credit mark after tax. Can you just connect those two?
David Rosato - Peoples United Financial, Inc. - CFO
Sure. The $2 million credit mark is just around the after-tax differential between their allowance and our credit mark.
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Collyn Gilbert - Keefe, Bruyette & Woods, Inc. - Analyst
Got it, okay. And then the cost savings, I know, Jack, you talked about the outlook for the branches. How, and maybe percentages, of the $27 million was that what it was? that youre expect in cost saves, how that breaks, like how much of that is going to come from branch closings versus other avenues.
David Rosato - Peoples United Financial, Inc. - CFO
Sure. Just some general categories, if you will. Boards and executives are about 6%. Branch consolidation, non-employee based, so just the bricks and mortar, are about 7%. Between IT, marketing, its about 5%. And then the large driver, 28%, would be general staff overlap between the two franchises.
Collyn Gilbert - Keefe, Bruyette & Woods, Inc. - Analyst
Okay. And then just, also, looking out from here, do you guys break down I know in the slide deck you talk about the Long Island franchise and how the deposit growth has gone over the last three years or so do you have other metrics, like the profitability profile, like ROA/ROE, or efficiency ratio on the Long Island franchise? Do you guys segment it that way? Or earnings contribution of Long Island to the overall organization?
David Rosato - Peoples United Financial, Inc. - CFO
We tend to look at our franchise by state rather than narrow geographies.
Collyn Gilbert - Keefe, Bruyette & Woods, Inc. - Analyst
Okay. Do you have that, then, for New York, what New Yorks contribution is to the Peoples franchise?
David Rosato - Peoples United Financial, Inc. - CFO
We do on an internal basis, but not for public consumption.
Collyn Gilbert - Keefe, Bruyette & Woods, Inc. - Analyst
Okay. Then maybe the second part to that question, and more, then, high level or strategic, Jack, you had indicated that there is opportunity for further consolidation out on the Island. Can you just talk a little bit about how you see this evolving over time, your Long Island franchise, the New York franchise, and how quickly youd like to see it evolve. Just give us a little bit of a vision for how you see this playing out over the next couple year period.
Jack Barnes - Peoples United Financial, Inc. - President and CEO
We think about it in terms of our lines of business and the deposit franchise. We have very good, very seasoned commercial bankers on the Island, with a team of four CRE folks, and then the same with the C&I. And then in New York we have recently announced the hiring of Mark Melchione and weve hired a number of people into Marks team. So, we have a very experienced, capable commercial real estate group located in Manhattan and serving the greater New York area. The folks on the Long Island team report in to Mark.
And Westchester County we also have a C&I team that, again, is long-tenured in the market. And all of those groups are continuing to build a very steady book of business, which has come along very nicely. And our deposit growth, we talked about the Citizens branches. Weve also had generally very good organic growth off of the entire footprint.
So, things are moving along very well. And I think that New York can gradually get to a point where someday, if I had a vision it would be that its the same size as Connecticut.
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Collyn Gilbert - Keefe, Bruyette & Woods, Inc. - Analyst
Okay. One final thought on that, or just a question, as youre thinking about consolidation from here, if we are sitting in this macro environment where interest rates stay low for longer, youve got economic volatility. Is your thought maybe that consolidation will pick up? Do you guys feel like you may want to ramp up your consolidation efforts? Or do you still want to be somewhat measured, being mindful of the $50 billion mark?
Jack Barnes - Peoples United Financial, Inc. - President and CEO
I think that consolidation pressure will pick up, has picked up. And we will continue to look for opportunities, and look for deals like this, which to me are very compelling in their logic and opportunity.
What we have done and what we will continue to do is stay in very close communication with our regulators and look at potential opportunities and have the discussions with our regulators about those opportunities. And if we get support to do something that we feel is the right thing to do, we will look at it.
Collyn Gilbert - Keefe, Bruyette & Woods, Inc. - Analyst
Okay, thats helpful. I will leave it there. Thanks, gentlemen.
David Rosato - Peoples United Financial, Inc. - CFO
Sure. Casey, its David. Well be glad to walk through the efficiency ratio in more detail, questions you had. But just doing some quick math, make sure that your accounting for the new shares issued in the math. That might be the difference that were coming up with.
Operator
Matthew Breese, Piper Jaffray.
Matthew Breese - Piper Jaffray - Analyst
Good morning, everybody. You mentioned in your commentary earlier that with Suffolk, the timing of crossing $50 billion might be about a year less than what it was. Can you give us a reminder of what that timeframe was prior to Suffolk?
Jack Barnes - Peoples United Financial, Inc. - President and CEO
If you take a look at the $2 million off our balance sheet, maybe you could estimate it.
David Rosato - Peoples United Financial, Inc. - CFO
Yes. Weve never given public comment around when we think we might grow to that size.
Matthew Breese - Piper Jaffray - Analyst
Okay. So, whatever it was its now a year less, is the message.
David Rosato - Peoples United Financial, Inc. - CFO
Approximately, yes.
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Matthew Breese - Piper Jaffray - Analyst
Okay. And thinking about how youre going to cross $50 billion, given your commentary that you like deals like Suffolk, smaller in nature, is that to say that when you cross $50 billion it will be organically or through a small acquisition, not something much larger and transformational?
Jack Barnes - Peoples United Financial, Inc. - President and CEO
No. Were not saying either one of those things. What we are saying and have been saying is that we are doing the preparation work to cross $50 billion when that day comes, and be prepared, doing our job. If we cross $50 billion due to an acquisition, large or small, we want to be ready. If we cross $50 billion organically we want to be ready. So, that is what we are talking about when we talk about preparation and being ready to get there.
Matthew Breese - Piper Jaffray - Analyst
Got it, okay. And then last question is just in regards to expense saves. Given that the majority of it, it sounds like, just franchise overlap in back office, can you give us an idea of when the systems conversion as opposed to take place?
Jack Barnes - Peoples United Financial, Inc. - President and CEO
Not right now. We expect that would be shortly after closing, but thats work we will continue to do here in the coming weeks.
Matthew Breese - Piper Jaffray - Analyst
Okay. Thinking about fully saves and cost saves by 2018, it sounds like a lot of the cost saves work can be done earlier on in the process, right after closing. So, why is it taking a little bit longer of a time frame to get those cost saves?
David Rosato - Peoples United Financial, Inc. - CFO
Its partially the pace of branch closures. And, as we said, 75% is in 2017.
Matthew Breese - Piper Jaffray - Analyst
Right. Okay. Thats all I had. Thank you.
Operator
Thank you. Im showing no further questions at this time and Id like to turn the conference back over to Mr. Andrew Hersom for any closing remarks.
Andrew Hersom - Peoples United Financial, Inc. - IR
Thank you again for joining us today. We appreciate your interest in Peoples United. If you have any additional questions please feel free to contact me at 203-338-4581. Have a great day.
Operator
Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for participating in todays conference. This does conclude the program and you may all disconnect. Everyone have a great day.
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